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  CBS    CBS This Morning    News/Business. John Miller, Rebecca Jarvis, Jeff Glor.   
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    December 18, 2012
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good morning, it is tuesday, december 18, 2012. welcome to "cbs this moing." schools reopen in newtown, connecticut, as people start to say good-bye to the victims of friday's massacre. meanwhile, the debate over gun control intensifies on capitol hill. we'll speak to chicago mayor rahm emanuel. plus, we'll get the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations from major garrett. in the midst of gunfire, his words brought comfort to his classmates. hear from a brave 8-year-old survivor of the newtown tragedy. we begin with a look at today's eye opener, your whorld in 90 seconds. >> we shouldn't be at a
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6-year-old's funeral. this is a devastating event. it's heartedbreaking. as it is, it copkeeps getting m heartbreaking. >> the first of the victims laid to rest. >> the funerals will continue for days. >> you drop your kid off and -- you don't see them again? honestly, that's really life now? >> authorities hope to soon interview two survivors of the massacre. >> police are analyzing the evidence, and that includes adam lanza's home computer. >> what kind of kid was adam lanza? >> just quiet. >> what can be done about people like him? >> the answer is very little. >> the massacre has reignited the debate over gun control. >> mayor bloomberg stepped up the call for new laws. >> why is the murder rate around the country? i'm an american, what's the question? >> president obama made a new fiscal cliff offer. taxes will go up on those making more than $400,000. >> blinding snow, drenching
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rain, damaging winds knocked out power to thousands. >> all that -- >> kicked around on the ground. that's the way this game should end. that's the way the season should end! >> jim boeheim is the winner of 900 basketball games. >> and all that matters -- >> hawaii's daniel k. inouye died of respiratory complications. >> he's one of the giants of the senate. >> on cbs this morning -- >> i hope we can laugh tonight after a horrible weekend. i just want the people in connecticut to know that we do not take what you're going through lightly, and we are thinking about you here a lot, all of us, even though we're -- thinking about you here a lot, all of us, even though we're -- [ applause ] captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning."
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students are going back to school today in newtown, connecticut, except for the boys and girls of sandy hook elementary. their new school in a nearby town is not ready yet. >> investigators are still trying to figure out what led to this massacre. jeff glor is in newtown, connecticut, where two young victims were laid to rest on monday. jeff, good morning. >> reporter: nor agood morning to you. we are one week away from christm christmas. here in connecticut, it will be a week full of funerals for the victims of friday's shooting. in connecticut on monday, the first two funerals were held for the victims of friday's shooting. 6-year-old noah pozner and 6-year-old jack pinto. the state's governor and lieutenant governor each attended one of the services. >> you try to feel their pain but you can't. you try to find some words that you hope will be adequate, knowing that they'll be inadequate. and you see little coffins, and your heart has to ache. >> reporter: that heartache will continue over the coming days as more funerals take place and as
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the holidays approach. in the middle of town here, an ever-growing memorial has become a site for those who want to pay their respects. >> because i'm a dad of four beautiful children, four daughters. when i found out, it broke my heart. and it's hard to sleep, hard to -- i have no emotion whatsoever. i -- i don't know how to feel. >> reporter: at schools across the united states, those feelings of sorrow turned into anxie anxiety. 20 miles from newtown, a suspicious person at a train station triggered a lockdown of all schools. for some teachers including chris mcallister in arlington, texas, the lockdowns were self-imposed. >> that door closes, i know it's locked. i don't even have to second guess. i put a little piece of paper on my window that normally i would keep it to the side. >> reporter: sandy hook elementary school remains closed. crews are renovating an old school nearby. it will be ready whenever the students are. >> as a mom, i know i could never send my kids back to that
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school. >> reporter: julie pokrinchak's daughter olivia was one of the 6-year-old victims. she was looking forward to watching olivia, who loved musical theater, play an angel in a church play saturday. instead, olivia's funeral will be held at the same church, and then she'll be buried on friday. >> i'm hoping that other towns are going to open up their schools and let the kids go there for a little while. and i -- i would love to see that school burn down and start new. >> reporter: you never want anyone to set foot there again? >> i don't. >> reporter: several of olivia's classmates also went to st. rose of lima church where that play was scheduled to be held. olivia has a 3-year-old brother. her parents have told him that olivia's going to be with the angels. nora, charlie? >> so tough. jeff glor, thank you. and on capitol hill yesterday the house and senate held moments of silence for the victims in newtown.
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the talk about new gun laws is getting louder with some members saying that friday's massacre is changing the debate. nancy cordes with more. >> reporter: good morning. it's not that often on capitol hill that we see lawmakers have a complete change of heart on a major issue, but that's exactly what we're seeing with some of the staunchest pro-gun democrats, saying they might now be open to changes in the nation's gun laws. >> shame on the nra! >> reporter: as demonstrators marched on nra headquarters, phone calls poured in to congressional offices. >> okay, so you're in support of gun control legislation? >> reporter: kentucky democrat john yarmuth says most of the calls have been in favor of new gun restrictions. as a democrat from a conservative southern state, yarmuth says he avoided the issue for the past six years. but now he wants to reinstate the ban on assault weapons. >> nothing's going to bring back those 20 children and six very
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courageous educators. but we can make sure that's our inspiration, battle cry. and i won't be quiet anymore. >> reporter: neither will senator joe manchin of west virginia. like yarmuth, he has a record of being pro-gun rights. he even fired in a campaign ad. after friday's shooting, manchin says there must be a way to limit the purchase of high-capacity magazines. >> this is not about the second amendment to our constitution or taking guns away. it's been having an intelligent conversation. >> reporter: that conversation has dried up in recent years in the face of pressure from powerful groups like the national rifle association. the nra's lobbying budget is 66 times the amount the leading gun-control organization, the brady foundation, spends to lobby congress. a new c news poll shows in the wake of the shooting, 57% of americans now back stricter gun laws.
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the highest percentage in a decade. even though less than half, 42%, think new laws would have helped prevent the tragedy. manchin has an a rating from the nra, though that could change now that he's come out in favor of some form of gun control. were they angry? >> not at all. not at all, no. and i'm -- they're family, they have children, they have grandchildren. you think everyone in america's not hurting? whether you're an nra member or not, whether you're one of the -- working for the nra, these are good people. >> reporter: so far most republicans are staying silent on the gun issue. we reached out to more than two dozen of them. they declined our interview request. the nra has also been silent. they have not released a statement, nora and charlie. they also took down their facebook and twitter pages for a few days because of all the messages they were receiving. >> thank you. with us, chicago mayor rahm
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emanuel, president obama's former white house chief of staff. good morning. >> good morning. >> this change of heart, how sustainable is it? will it lead to meaningful action, and is meaningful action a ban on assault weapons and more? >> yes. yes to all of those, but to break it down, there is no doubt i think right now, all of us, all of us are citizens and residents of newtown, connecticut. that's number one. i think there's a genuine outpouring in the country for action that this type of event is -- you know, the tectonic shift in attitudes, that's number one. you have to have when reauthorization of the assault weapon ban, when i worked for president clinton we fought to get it to pass the house by one vote. i remember there was an attempt to pull it out of the crime bill. we kept it in and finally got it done. it was bipartisan when it passed. second, you have to deal with the clips and the straw purchases, which is how guns bled into urban and other areas vie at brady bill that deals with stores and at regular kind
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of merchants. almost 40% to 50% of the guns are guns through store purchases. and you must cover and deal with that kind of -- where guns seep into the rest of society. so in that comprehensive faction. everything in my view, charlie and nora, with the type of gun and criminal access is where you should go in a sense of legislation, that area. >> i want to ask you about what led us to this point. as you pointed out, the assault weapons ban expired in 2004. you were president obama's chief of staff. and in 2009, according to the book "killer catcher," you were furious with attorney general holder who held a press conference in february of 2009 saying that the obama administration was going to reinstitute, push the assault weapons ban, and that you went sent word to justice that holder needed to shut up on guns. >> let me say this -- no, president obama always stood for getting this done. number one. number two, i passed the brady bill via assault weapon ban.
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it is important we do that. the fact is, in 2009 the president and the entire government was very clear to say this, as the attorney general knows, in getting all the president's legislation done and working with congress to do that. >> i want you to explain that. were you worried about the political backlash of taking on and pushing for the assault weapons ban? why didn't obama do that? >> no, because -- first of all, the president's record is very, very clear on this. it's clear when he was a state senator, it was clear when he was also a u.s. senator. it was clear also as a president, and he was dealing as you well know with a myriad of issues. and he was pushing very hard and making sure also that we had the funding to do everything we needed to do justice department. >> the brady campaign in the first year gave obama an "f." an "f." there was a reported in "the new york times" on sunday that after the aurora shooting -- i know you weren't at the white house then, but that the justice department went to the white house with ways to expand the background check system in order to reduce the risk of guns falling in the hands of mentally ill people. and there was a decision made
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not to go that far. what i guess i'm trying to ask, not assign blame, but politically, how hard is it to take on the nra? >> first of all, having fought to pass the brady bill and the assault weapon ban, the last time we really had gun control, it is very hard. that's why what you have to focus on is criminal access and the type of guns and make it a law enforcement issue. when i worked for president clinton we had all the police chiefs in d.c., and that's why i also think now the proximity to the vote is very, very important. i think it's essential to have a vote of conscience. put it up, people notice what happened here, number one. number two is, it has to be about people -- the type of criminal access to the type of gun which is why you showed earlier the type of gun because i think when people see that, it's clear that gun is not for the streets, it's not for sports. it's really a gun of war. >> i don't understand why people who did not have the political will to go forward don't simply acknowledge it and say i've come around, as some have, including the president. >> no -- >> no, the president did not do all that he could, and you know
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it. i suspect he knows it. but the more important thing is, is it now time to stand up to the nra and to say to them as mayor bloomberg has said, you are full of -- we have the courage to take him on now? full of myth is what he said. >> i understand that there is no doubt, you have an event that's changed everybody's attitude. you just saw that there. >> you think conservative democrats, too? >> i think you're going to have a lot of people say, okay, what should we do? you can't take an event like this and say the status quo stays in place. that's number one. number two, what then should be done? that's why i believe a focus on criminal access and the type of weapons is where you have the best prospect in making it a public safety criminal activity. that's where you're going to get progress. the last time it was passed in '93, the brady bill, '94, the assault weapon ban. haven't had anything since. the closer you stay to that area which is the best process about
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making this about law enforcement -- >> and one of the things is mental health. the other is the climate of violence. the two things are important as the gun debate is. >> right. no doubt. but -- there is a powerful force, there are other elements of society which is why you have to stay in the zone about law enforcement and the type of weapons and the type of people's access to the weapons. and that is where -- that is where you'll get the political support and the public support to build a broad coalition. this is not a coalition that stays with the persuaded. it has to be built with the unpersuaded which is what you're also showing on the tv as people start to change their attitude about what they will accept. >> all right. mayor rahm emanuel, good to see you. thanks for being here. >> thank you. and now we look at the fiscal cliff, and there are new sign that both sides are closer to a deal with 14 days left until the deadline. a new cbs news poll shows 51% of republican voters favor higher taxes on families earning more than $200,000 a year. 60% of democratic voters say they're not ready to go along with cutting government
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programs. monday the obama administration made a new counteroffer to republican leaders, and major garrett is at the white house. and major, good morning. we knew -- >> good morning. >> we knew the president and the speaker had this hour long meeting. what came out of it? >> reporter: we'll talk about the timing. this week really could be the week, and there are officials i've talked to who would not be surprised if some sort of announcement of a deal could happen as early as tomorrow. what are some of the concessions president obama made? he made two big ones. historically he's always said he wanted to raise income tax rates on incomes $250,000 or higher. now he's willing to raise the income to $400,000. he made another concession, telling republicans for the first time he would accept some reduction in annual cost of living benefits for federal benefits. among those, says. now there's still some differences. john boehner, the house speaker, has said no, let's have the tax rates, 39.6% by the way, up from 35% on incomes over $1 million. so there's still a gap there.
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and the speaker wants a one-year increase in the debt ceiling. the president would like two years. but these two sides are getting closer. the talks are very productive. and this week could be the week. >> all right. you expect now the republicans will respond or the president will step up and now talk about entitlement cuts in addition to coming together on an understanding about how much the deal will be about the rates? >> reporter: those conversations are essentially, charlie and nora, hour by hour. and one thing i think is important to point out, the president is not going to concede a couple of things republicans would like him to give up on. he will not so far increase the eligibility age for medicare. and he wants republicans to agree to another one-year extension in joblessness benefits. and he wants some more infrastructure spending, at least $50 billion next year, maybe more in the outyears. republicans haven't agreed to all that. there are still differences, hard lines the president's drawing. but these conversations at the highest levels continue, and there is genuinely hope here at
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the white house and on capitol hill that this week could be the week to wrap it all up. >> and major, so you think we could have a deal as soon as tomorrow so that they could vote by saturday? >> reporter: we could have a deal that's announced in broad parameters as early as tomorrow. i'm not predicting that, but people i talked to don't absolutely rule it out. many, many things have to come together. the atmosphere -- i will tell you, the atmosphericis about connecticut have added a new dimension to this. the president and speaker know a deal and resolution right now would do the country a world of good, not just for the fiscal future but for a sense of this town can get something good while the rest of the country is grieving. >> thank you very much. tv reporter richard engle is free after five years in syria. the nbc news chief correspondent and members of his production cree were seized and blind folded on the syrian/turkey border thursday. they were set free on monday after a fire-fight between kidnappers and rebel forces.
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all the hostages were unharmed. >> and one of his colleagues says hawaii senator daniel inouye was the type of american america has always been grateful for. he died at walter reed army medical center after a short illness. he served in congress for 50 years. he lost his right arm fighting the germans. 55 years later he was awarded the medal of honor. he became well known for his roles in investigating watergate in the iran contra scandal. daniel inouye, a great man, was 88 years old. time to show headlines from around the globe. "the charleston post and courier" shows that jim scott will be the south's first black senator in modern times. south carolina's governor, nikki haley, who appointed scott, says she chose him for his conservative values. scott will face an election in 2014.
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the "washington post" says nasa dleb ratley crashed two space probes into the moon yesterday. ebb and flow were to map the gravitational field. they discovered the moon's crust is thinner than nasa thought. the "los angeles times" says traffic deaths are down the country except in california. more than 32,000 people were killed in accidents last year in the united states. that is the lowest number in more than 60 years. but traffic deaths in california increased more than 2.5%. "usa today" reports nielsen and twitter are teaming up to provide social tv ratings starting next fall. it will measure the social interaction of its users around certain television shows. and the "wall street journal" looks at why too little sleep leads to overeating and weight gain. a new study suggests that lack of sleep affects different hormones in men and women. men on short sleep felt more hungry, but women felt less full. >> we don't know anything about lack
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day after day in newtown, clergy members are there helping family members grieve. pthis morning we'll ask a minister what they're telling him about the tragedy and how he deals with his own grief. and more than three million americans own the same ar-15 rifle that adam lanza used on friday. >> this is sprinkles. i named her sprinkles because she loves sprinkling casings all over the ground. >> we'll ask john miller why gun owners are passionate about this military-style weapon on "cbs this morning." [ female announcer ] send a loved one a free kleenex® care pack of soothing essentials. go to kleenex.com and enter the code from specially-marked bundles of kleenex® tissues.
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i think i'm like people, officially in the northeast, thinking about the shooting up in connecticut. then you come out and see these beautiful christmas lights. and i don't know -- i think they're more beautiful this year than they've ever been, and it makes me so sad because they're kids and you think about that -- horrifying circumstance. you think about your own kid. i take him to school every now and then, you know, what -- are we supposed to be worry good dropping our kids off at school now? i don't know. i never worry good it before. i always thought, well, here, school is a good place where my son will be free of the idiot decisions made by his father. [ laughter ]
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>> welcome back to "cbs this morning." we reported earlier how the newtown massacre might inspire congress to take on tougher gun laws. >> much of the new debate focuses on the rifle that adam lanza used on friday, the ar-15. chip reid is in washington. good morning. >> reporter: well, good morning, nora and charlie. gun control advocates can't imagine why any law-abiding citizen would want or need a powerful military-style gun like the ar-15. among gun enthusiasts the followers number in the millions. more than three million americans own an ar-15, the most popular rifle in america. >> it's -- a fun gun to shoot. >> reporter: gun store owners say buyers also like it because it's the civilian version of the fearsome m-16 used in the military. its futuristic appearance has it playing a starring role in american pop culture. >> you tell me right now -- >> reporter: the gun of choice in movies and video games. >> you just see it and you want
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it. it's just the same reason why somebody stands on line for 25 hours to buy an apple iphone. >> reporter: it's a weapon that's been used in some of the worst mass shootings in recent history. it was an ar-15 that was used last friday that killed 26 people at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. last week, a man used one to kill two people at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. and in july, an ar-15 was used in the movie theater massacre in aurora, colorado, in which 12 people were killed and 58 injured. through it all the gun's popularity has continued to soar. in fact, gun storeowner rick freedman says since friday's shooting, ar-15s have been all but flying off the shelf. >> i normally sell about 15 or 20 a month. i sold about 30 in the last three days. people want to make sure they can own them legally before they have that right taken away. >> reporter: and it's not just men. many women like the ar-15, too,
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including former republican presidential candidate michele bachmann who uses hers for hunting and target practice. >> my favorite is an ar-15 -- >> reporter: the ar-15 also has an enthusiastic following on youtube. >> so this is sprinkles. i named her sprinkles because she loves sprinkling casings all over the ground. >> reporter: for years, gun-control advocates have argued that the ar-15 and other military-style rifles should be banned. president obama, who had been largely silent on the topic of gun control, briefly made his views known during one of this year's presidential debates. >> share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters -- >> reporter: many democrats in congress are planning an effort to try to ban military-style rifles. but gun store owners tell us no one should underestimate the passionate feelings of gun
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oernls owners about the ar-15. they say next week there will be thousands upon thousands under the christmas tree. >> thank you, john miller, former deputy director, joins us this morning. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> what is it that makes the ar-15 so attractive to gun users? >> it's a very practical, well-made weapon. there's a reason that the u.s. military selected it. when i was in the lapd, i had sis, the special investigation section. they went after the bank robbers, heavily armed serial robber groups, and when they came out of their cars against a heavily armed band of stick-up men, we used the ar-15, the cut-down model, m-4. when i went on training missions with them and fired that weapon, it was -- about five pounds, it has a great sighting system, you can improve on that with optics and lasers. but even without any of the fancy stuff, down range from a target pretty far away, something you'd have trouble hitting accurately with a handgun, you can put the round
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right there. it's an easy gun to shoot. there's one other element which is a lot of these mass shooters are involved in a fantasy, and you know, they dress up in the tactical gear, and they have the black outfits and all that stuff. this gun fits in with the fantasy. in all their video games and all their movies, this is what the hero is using. >> part of the reason we asked chip reid to do this piece and talk about this is the ar-15 was used at sandy hook, newtown, it was used in aurora, it was used in clackamas. and this type of gun was restricted under the assault weapons ban in 2004. so is there a discussion now about whether there should be more restrictions on this gun, or can i go now and buy one of these myself without much of a check and pick one up? >> sure, you can. it's considered a rifle. so i mean, you don't really need much to buy a rifle. you go through a quick background check. there's a backlash, though. dick's sporting goods, the outfit that's closest to
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newtown, they've just -- and they're a very big gun dealer. they've just said that they're taking all the guns out of the stores. and when you go to their web sites -- >> their store near newtown, the web store, they're taking off, yeah. >> i'm just doing the web search now. when you go to the page where the assault weapons should be, it's now blank. so we're seeing this backlash unfold here. and it's interesting. one quick update. on the computer hard drives, you know, he smashed the computers, took out the hard drives, smashed them. that went from the state police to the fbi. i spoke to people working around that yesterday, and they said they are so badly damaged. they're going to have a real challenge getting any data off that from the suspect. >> interesting. john miller, thank you. and when their school was invaded on friday, the teachers protected their students. and the students helped each other. we're going to show you what one 8-year-old boy said to keep his classmates calm. that's next on "cbs this morning."
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in the middle of all the fear and chaos on friday, one 8-year-old boy offered words of comfort to his classmates. and jim axelrod talked to him and his family. >> reporter: last friday began as a normal day for luke san tana and his third grade classmates at sandy hook elementary. [ sirens ] >> reporter: but things got scary pretty quickly. >> they were about to announce something on the speaker. we heard gunshots. >> reporter: on the other side of the building, the shooter was beginning his rampage. luke's teacher tried to protect her kids. so you're in the classroom, and mrs. mckenzie is -- is she calm, is she excited? how was she? >> she was crying. >> reporter: mrs. mckenzie was crying? >> yeah. >> reporter: because it must have pretty scary. >> yeah. but then like our next door teacher said to come to her classroom. >> reporter: so you all went in
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there? >> yeah because probably the gunman was going to come in our classroom. >> reporter: fortunately for luke and his classmates, the gunman never made it to their classroom. but even as they were ushered to safety at a nearby fire house, the kids were very scared. and luke bravely wanted to help calm them. >> they were crying. i was like, it's okay. my dad is a cop, and he'll like help us. >> reporter: his dad, luke ramirez, is a police officer in the neighboring town of oxford. and he did come. he was one of the first responders on the scene. >> i saw my husband was calling. i picked up the phone right away. and i hear the terror in his voice telling me something terrible happened. you have to get here to the school. >> reporter: luke's mom, lessandra santana, said she prayed all the way it school. when she got through the mayhem at the fire house, she finally saw the most welcome sight imaginable. >> he was with my husband. >> he grabbed me actually, and i
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said, oh -- i said, oh, you're finally here. what took you so long? >> reporter: it was the happy ending for the santana family. but for luke, it's still sinking in. >> i'm glad i wasn't on the other side because then i probably wouldn't make it. >> reporter: no thought any 8-year-old should ever have to carry. for cbs this morning, i'm jim axelrod in newtown, connecticut. >> remarkable kid, huh? >> luke, trying to comfort the other students. there will be funerals today for two more victims, james mattioli and jessica rekos. with us is senior minister of newtown congressional church. he was in the room on friday as parents were told that their children had not survived. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> can you characterize today -- i mean, as these young coffins are put in the ground where
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newtown is and the people who are trying to deal with such a tragedy? >> well, i think we're in the midst of tremendous grief. you know, i think we're in those really dark, dark days of loss, at the very early stages where all those feelings are so raw and emotion is just, you know, everywhere. and yet there's such a feeling, i think, amongst the community here of care and support and people reaching out and feeling the care of those beyond newtown who have extended just thoughts and prayers and all kinds of support up to us. so even in this very raw time, it's also a time i think of tremendous grace and care. >> reverend, i know you have been counseling not just adults but also children. what do you say to them? >> well, part of what you say to
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them is first you listen to them. and you just are with them. and try to see what it is that they are dealing with and what their questions are, what their concerns are. sometimes as adults with children, we want to -- to give them everything we think we would want to hear or talk to them in a way that we think with things that they need to know. and sometimes you just need to think about and -- and respond to the child, the age of the child and what's appropriate for the child. and also what their actual needs and questions are. every child that i've encountered, even every adult is unique. so you want to be with them and present to them as an individual person in their own personal grief. >> the reverend maths
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good morning to you. it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." there will be more funerals today in newtown, connecticut, as the governor responds to the families who were offended with the way they were told the way their children died. the president makes a new offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. we'll see how a deal could be made. first here's today's "eye opener at 8." >> we're one week away prosecute christmas. in connecticut it will be a week full of wakes and funerals for the victims of friday's shooting. >> it's hard to sleep. i have no emotion whatsoever. i don't know how to feel. >> some of the staunchest
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pro-gun democrats say they might now be open to changes in the nation's gun laws. >> there's a genuine outpouring in the country for action. this type of event, the tectonic shift in attitudes. >> is it now time to stand up to the nra? >> there are new signs that both sides are closer to a fiscal cliff deal. >> there are officials talking that there could be some sort of deal as early as tomorrow. >> gun-control advocates can't imagine why any law-abiding citizens would want or need a powerful military-style gun like the ar-15. >> what is it that makes the ar-15 so attractive to gun users? >> it's a very practical, well-made weapon. military selected it. >> in the middle of all the fear and chaos on friday, one 8-year-old boy offered words of comfort to his classmates. >> it's okay. my dad is a cop, and he'll like help us. in newtown, connecticut,
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folks have always loved the taste of homemade. >> that is a classic television ad from 1978 that showed newtown and what a wonderful community it was and how a community that was so nice can be so devastated. >> right. exactly. captioning funded by cbs eye charmyy -- i'm charlie rose with gale king and nora o'donnell. the sandy hook elementary school remains a crime scene. investigators have lots of evidence but no motive. more funerals are planned for today. connecticut's governor is talking about the heart wrenching task of telling parents they'd never see their children again. jeff glor is in newtown with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. as the funerals and wakes continue here today, one of the families that lost a loved one in friday's shooting is criticizing the governor for the way he informed families that so many people died.
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they say he was cold and callo s callous. that according to one of the families. >> of it a cold way we were told. >> what do you mean? >> we waited for hours. hours and hours we were there. the exact words that the governor used were, "two children were brought to danbury hospital and expired." then another parent said, "well, where did the other people go?" "where did everybody else go? the children go? we want to be there. we want to be with our kids." he said, "nobody else was taken to a hospital." and then we said, somebody -- you know, a very angry parent said, "so what are you telling us, they're all dead?" and he said, "yes." >> reporter: yesterday connecticut governor dan malloy defended himself. >> there was a reluctance to tell parents and loved ones that
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the person that they were waiting for was not going to return. and that had gone on for a period of time, well after there was any expectancy that families would be reunited. so i made a decision that -- to have that go on any long er -- was wrong. >> reporter: there are two funerals and three wakes scheduled for today. now one week away from christmas. >> jeff glor, thank you. you know, i heard from another family, too, who was upset with the way the governor delivered the news. they took great exception, you guys, it the governor using the term "expired." they said that's what you say about milk, that's what you say about food. and my response to them was, maybe the governor was in shock, too. you know, it's very difficult news to deliver. nobody knows the proper way to
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say it. but they felt that there should have been a better choice of words, and maybe better -- a better way to comfort them, they felt, that they did not get that. >> yeah. i suspect the governor saying he'd do the same now. >> the pr families waiting for any word and the governor choked up trying to explain, he felt like finally he had to say something. clearly perhaps the words he chose were not the right words. but obviously it -- a terrible situation. >> impossible situation. >> yeah. >> yes. yes. you know, they had great words of praise for connecticut state troopers. every family has been assigned a trooper, every family's been assigned a trooper that sort of gets them through. they said it makes them feel protected and loved. that's a very good thing. >> very good thing. a team of golden retrievers from chicago made a trip to newtown to comfort those affected by the school massacre. their first stop was a church where funerals will be held this week for some of the victims. residents can pet the dogs while they talk or they pray. their handlers say the dogs have a very calming influence. each dog carries a business card with its name, a facebook page,
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and an e-mail so people can stay in touch. >> that's very nice. >> yes. president obama and house speaker john boehner are still in touch about the fiscal cliff. and there's new progress to report this morning from those negotiations. boehner is discussing the latest white house proposal with fellow republicans today. major garrett is at the white house. major, are we finally close to a deal? >> reporter: it looks that way, and it feels that way, nora, charlie, and gal there is no timetable for announcing it, but there are people who would not be surprised that there was an announcement possibly as early as tomorrow, and maybe voting this week on the final compromise to avert the fiscal cliff. now if you want all the underlying, really nerdy details, go to cbsnews.com. i have a piece that has them there. let's go over broad outlines. the president yesterday made two significant concessions. one, he had previously said he wanted income taxes raised for
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everyone making more than $250,000. he raised the threshold yesterday to house and senate republicans to $400,000. and for the first time, the president said he would be willing to accept some reduction in future cost of living benefit increases for those who received federal benefits including social security recipients. republicans haven't brought on -- haven't embraced all this deal. there are still some divisions. republicans would like, for example, the president to said an increase in the eligibility age for medicare. the president won't do that. there's some more spending the president wants that republicans haven't signed off on yet. there isn't a full deal on the tax rates or income thresholds, but all of these differences hour by hour are narrowing. and the talks continue. and we could have a breakthrough this week. >> thank you. a man who lived in the white house for two terms is ready to star in his own documentary. former president bill clinton will be the subject of an authorized hbo documentary directed by martin scorsese. he social security mr. clinton remains a major voice in world issues. executives will not say if the
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film will include inside details of the monica lewinsky scandal. and queen elizabeth observed a weekly cabinet meeting. the first time a monarch has attended in at least 100 years. the queen took a seat next to prime minister cameron who presented her with a gift to celebrate her diamond jubilee. the woman blamed for botching the restoration of a painting in a church has reason to celebrate. you may remember celia jimenez created a sensation when she painted the picture of christ that looked more like a monkey. it went for more than $1,800 on ebay. the proceeds go to a catholic charity. >> worked out for her after all. and soon you'll be able to buy an easy bake oven that isn't pink. hasbro's offering new gender-neutral colors. a few weeks ago, a 13-year-old, mckenna pope -- go, mckenna --
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of new jersey, started a campaign because she wanted to buy one for her brother but it only came in pink and purple for girls. mckenna met with hasbro on monday. they showed her the prototypes. it will soon come in black, silver, and blue. the new colors will hit shelves next summer. and now we know what to get for charlie next christmas. we can pitch in. you have a favorite color, dear? black, silver, blue, what's your choice? >> black. >> okay.
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whenever a community like newtown, connecticut, is hit by tragedy, american immediately pitch in to try and help. the first visible example of that in newtown was a flood of stuffed animals and christmas trees. >> other contributions are paying for funerals or helping with counseling and creating scholarships in the victims' memory. rebecca jarvis is here with ideas on how you, too, can help. rebecca, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i know that the local businesses in newtown -- i used to live in newington -- in newtown, also stepping up to the plate and trying to make it easy for people to contribute no matter where you live. what are they doing? >> they are coming out in full force here, and it's a beautiful thing to see that the people of
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newtown really want to rebuild their community. for example, the families of the sandy hook elementary school who have children in the school who did not pass. they've set up the my sandy hook family fund. the families of the survivors in the community. this is a fund that will go toward paying for funerals, for living expenses for the families who have lost loved ones, mortgages, bills in the future. the newtown memorial fund, another fund set up by the community, by brian moriello, who says he wants it to be a foundation, something for the community to think about for its long-term future, as well as the near-term issues that they face. the rotary has come out and set up a fund, the united way has partnered with a local bank to set up a fund. they raised over a million dollars in just a matter of a couple of days to help these families. >> money is one way to send your support, but there are other ways. and i love that the teachers have set up this helping hand project. explain. >> it's incredible. so the teachers of newtown have come together and set up the my
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helping hands project. what they're asking teachers and schools across the country, even the world to do, is to have their students cake white or light green paper, put their handprint on that paper, write their name on the paper next to their handprint, where they're from, and their school. and then send it to newtown. what the teachers of newtown are planning on doing with this is stringing them all together so that it's a sign for the community that there are warm hands and hearts around the world that are thinking about them at this awful time. >> yeah. one of the things that we kept hearing, nora, over and over again whether we were there is that they are so grateful that so many people care. that the outpouring of support has been so enormously helpful for them. so now you've got the school support fund to raise money to get the kids into school, which has also raised -- sandy hook school support has raised over a million dollars, and it just launched on friday night. >> $1 million. >> what will that do?
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>> what they're going to be doing is looking at the near term and longer term issues. they're putting together a coalition of local clergy, teachers, members of the community to think about how they can spend that money in the future because really one of the things about this -- this awful incident is that if you have a hurricane, for example, or a tornado, there's a physical thing that the community says we must rebuild this. in this case, there's physical issues, there's mental issues, there's grief. so the community itself as time goes on is going to have to think about how to best spend the money. the red cross is also there. they've deployed over 150 volunteers. they've been serving meals throughout the days and nights since the tragic incident. over 10,000 meals at this point. also people have come together around the country. ryan kraft, for example, the former babysitter of adam lanza, put together his own drive to help the pta locally there. anybody who hasn't necessarily
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heard of crowd rise, it's a platform on the web where you can put together your own drive to raise money for a cause. that's exactly what brian kraft has done. >> so if you want to get more information about how you can donate your time or your money, what should we do? >> well, there is an emergency response line for anybody who is locally in newtown who's trying to figure out how to volunteer their time. that's 1-800-203-1234. and of course, at cbsthismorning.com we'll be putting off this information. we not the country wants to help, and we want to help do that. >> we'll tweet a link to that, as well. rebecca jarvis, thank you. >> thank you. so what was it like in other towns to go back to school? monday was a very nervous day for many students. and lee woodruff will tell us what she heard from teachers and administrators ahead.
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." schools opened as usual across the country on monday morning. as you can imagine, the newtown shooting was on the minds of many. >> many teachers from westchester county shared the details of getting back to work after a very difficult weekend. >> reporter: when students returned to school on monday, educators prepared to take tough questions from children and offer comfort to anxious parents. >> i'm sure that it was very hard for them to walk away or drive away with all the wonderings that they had. >> reporter: schools in harrison, new york, embraced a
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quick return to routine. >> kids need to be with other kids in a place that feels familiar and comfortable. i really think the best thing that can happen to susan kidd to get back into the arms of teachers that care deeply about them, that know them. to be w their frienith their fr should be childhood. >> i think kids feel great about being in a routine and feeling that school was normal, as it should be, and they were still going to have recess and things were going to be in place. >> reporter: near pittsburgh, a district received a court order over the weekend to arm its school police. a scene played out at schools across the country. >> there were police posted outside the school. was that giving parents a sense of security flae? >> i met with the mayor, i met with the chief of police. we had a very frank discussion about what was enough of a presence to make sure that parents felt that we were taking their concerns seriously without frightening, frankly, fourth and fifth graders who saw police
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standing outside of their building. but my greatest concern is that we are focusing perhaps this debate too much on how to fortify, make foretresses out of schools, which is really, frankly, impossible. >> reporter: what can you do? what can a school? there is only so much you can prepare for the complete unexpected. >> we do lots of simulations throughout the course of the year where both the principal and teachers were unaware of the emergency, the practiced emergency we're going to create. and we try to determine where any flaws in our thinking might lie or our resources. >> reporter: >> we want them to know what to expect when a fire drill comes and whether we have-- and when a shelterring drill. it's a culture in the classroom of we're going to take care of each other. we're going to take care of you, and you're going to take care of each other. whatever comes comes, but we're going to be facing it together. >> i want everyone to get away from the hallway door and get down. >> reporter: the texas attorney
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general sent this training video to the state's 1,025 school districts and requested each of them to review emergency procedures. >> does everyone have their vests? >> reporter: harrison's superintendent says while necessary, such drills represent only a small part of a larger conversation. >> we can do more certainly to protect kids. and gun control would be at the top of the list to help with that debate. but at the end of the day i think we need to focus on how communities work together with schools to identify children that are disaffected. our belief as a school district is that all means all so that we all have a mutual responsibility for everyone's child. i think that's the answer. >> reporter: during dismissal on monday, this group of teachers stood outside their school, an extra step of assurance for parents picking up their children on what had to be a very long day for schools everywhere. >> at the end of the day, i got the sense that there was a
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relief there. when we dismissed the children, we dismissed them to their parents. and so, you know, there was a lot of nods, a lot of, you know, eye contact. that kind of gave you the message that they were happy that the day went well, and i think they got through the day and we got through the day. >> reporter: it was a big day to get through. >> it was a big day to get through. >> it was a big day to get through. you know, my sister is a first grade teacher in florida. and she was all ready for questions. she didn't get one question from any of the kids. makes me think that parents aren't letting their children that young see the coverage. >> i had the tv off all weekend. >> did you? >> of course, except for watching a little cbs, sneaking it in. but i think that that was the feeling yesterday when we talked to the teachers was, parents, it hadn't trickled down yet. they're ready next week, the week after, and in the months to come. and they realize that september 11, that was the situation, as well. questions came later. in harrison, they got together, teachers, before schooled opened and talked about what they would
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say, they talked to school psychologist. they will be prepared. >> did they get a lot of questions there? >> the kindergarten teacher said no, none. she said this is natural. she expected a few. she knows they will come. >> what about school security because we know in newtown, at sandy hook, they had all the right security measures. the principal had just done drills, they were doing all the right things. what did they say about reviewing security procedures? >> mr. wolf said they are reviewing them as many schools r. as you said, you can't stop someone from blasting out the glass windows and getting in. you're never going to stop this. the issue is deeper. we have to look at some of the other issues and how we come together and try to stop problems as a communities. >> and you don't want the school to be a fortress either. thank you. thank you. every mass shooting reminds us once again of others like the columbine massacre or the horror in aurora, colorado. this morning, we'll show you how people involved in those tragedies reacted to the news
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horrific acts of gun violence leave emotional scars that can last a life time hundreds of people in colorado were directly affected by the movie theater massacre in aurora or the columbine high school shootings. for them, as john blackstone reports, each new tragedy brings a painful reminder of the past. >> reporter: 14-year-old kaylan bailey lives in new hampshire. when she heard of the shootings in connecticut, it was almost as if she was there. >> i went into the gym locker, girls locker room, and sat there and cried. >> reporter: this past summer kaylan was in the aurora movie theater when a gunman opened fire killing 12 people, including kaylan's 6-year-old
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friend veronica mauser. after the shooting, we met kaylan and her mother, heather. >> horrifying picturing in my head what i saw that night. >> reporter: you say not a scratch on her or wound that we can see. >> right. but mentally, she's going to be dealing with this for a really long time. >> reporter: now the massacre at newtown threatens to be a setback. >> kaylan calls crying from school where i thought she was safe. that she didn't have to hear about it. >> it's going to be hard. it's going to be a hard, long road. >> reporter: while the whole nation can be shocked with each new mass shooting, those who have been there before feel it intensely. in 1999, 13 people were shot dead at columbine high in little
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ton, colorado. daniel mauser, 15 years old, was one of them. his father, tom, was in a business bhooeg learned of the newtown murders. >> i just got up and left the meeting in tears. went to my office, slammed the door, and broke down. what else can you do -- >> reporter: but you didn't know these people. they're a couple thousand miles away. across the country. >> it doesn't matter where -- you know them in terms of what they're going to be going through. >> reporter: kaylan says she knows exactly what the young survivors in newtown will be feeling in the months to come. >> when you go through something like that when you're a child, you never get over it, and it's never forgotten. and it's almost like your innocence is taken away from you. >> that's the one thing that you want your children to hold on to for as long as possible. >> reporter: in newtown now, a memorial is growing. an expression of a community's
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and a nation's pain. the same happened this summer near the aurora, colorado, movie theater. beside columbine high school, a striking permanent memorial was opened in 2007 with names of the dead cut in stone. does this help? >> it does. i think it's a symbol of the healing, and i think of the community coming together. getting behind this. >> reporter: but while the memorial offers healing, each new massacre brings new pain. >> i cannot deny that it brings it back, and that i have to deal with it. i do have to deal with it. >> reporter: even after 13 years. >> after 13 years. this will be for the rest of my life. i know that. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," john blackstone, little ton, colorado. >> you spent ten years researching the massacre for the book "columbine." i'm pleased to have you here. >> thanks, charlie.
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>> people are rushing in trying to find motive, asking can, hwh can this happen, we often get it wrong. >> we often get it wrong. after columbine, three days later, we had it figured out. we, the media, public, everyone understand key things. >> you were there. >> yes, yes, i was there from the first afternoon. and at this point we had it all figured out. we knew that they were outcast, loner goths from the trenchcoat mafia who had been brutaled bullied by jocks and were doing this as a revenge act to get back at the jocks for doing it. everything i said is wrong. not one single element of that is true. definitely wasn't about targeting anyone. there were bombs trying to kill everyone. they were not loners or outcasts. they weren't at the top of the food chain, but they had quite a few friends, they had a very active social life. you look at the daytimers, and it's -- they're completely full. all these things were wrong. and that -- >> that narrative lived on,
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though, dave. it laid the groundwork for years. >> most people still think that's all today. i do a lot of high school and different events and ask people who what are the main things you know about columbine. and they say all those things. the thing is this week whatever we leave the public with is going to be with them forever. we're going to cover this nonstop for a week or two or something. then we go away and something else becomes the story. that closing point whatever it is, whatever ideas we left the public with, it's with us forever. if we've got something wrong, or big myths out there -- >> you're saying that's why it's so important for us not to jump to conclusions in this case? >> yes. >> what are your thoughts about this chemical case in newtown? >> this case, i don't know. what i can tell you, though, is if you want to talk about -- there's three different types of killers that we have found in the shooters. and we can talk about what the three types are, you know, i don't want to talk about what this one might be because we don't know yet. >> what are the three types? >> okay, there's three -- first
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is the most rare which is the sadistic psychopaths. they know what they're doing, don't care. they're not mentally ill. that's rare luckily. the second, more prevalent but still smallish, is people who are deeply mentally ill. we're talking about a total break with reality. and in the case, that was true in vek and tucson, unfortunately. some of the notorious cases. but not usually. we want to be careful not to station ma ties people -- >> not mentally, not a psychopath. >> yes. the sthithird is depression. deep, deep extreme depression. people who are suicidally depressed and angry. that's the one that shocks people -- and it doesn't sort of compute that a depressed person does this. but that's the one we're talking about. and it's a little more complicated. it's people who have gotten to such a point of helplessness and hopelessness. so they're lashing out in an irrational way. and often they're not sure exactly what they're trying to accomplish. >> in closing, you make the point that often they are
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berating themselves, and it's they are the people who have a low opinion of themselves. >> that is exactly it. that's it in a nutshell. >> all right. >> the book is "columbine." >> so much to discuss. thank you, dave. the main character in the "sopranos" was a depressed gangster. remember him? now the man behind one of the best tv shows ever has a new feature film. his name is david chase. he joins us next at the table to talk about "not fade away."
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$2,000 a year for -- >> people with longer hair than me. >> look at the coat. looks like you just got off the boat at ellis island.
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>> what? >> he kills himself down at that store six days a week plus friday until 9:00 with that psoriasis, and this is what you d do? >> the movie "not fade away" is about music in the '60s, how it changed lives and defined a generation. it is a first feature film directed by david chase. he plays in a band himself long before he created television shows like "the sopranos." david chase, welcome. >> thank you. >> why did you decide to make this movie about this subject? >> i've always liked -- i've loved that music ever since those days. >> yeah. >> and it actually -- i was retracing my steps this week in the course of all this publicity. >> yeah. >> and i remember that when decided to do this was when keith richards fell out of the tree in hawaii and hurt himself. >> yes. >> and i remember -- it was a serious injury. and i remember thinking, it
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struck me, my god, keith richards is mortal. >> yeah. by the way, this is keith richards' birthday. hello, keith. >> wow, really? happy birthday. >> happy birthday, keith. >> it struck me that he was mortal and mick jagger was mortal, and they all were. and that -- >> they just don't know it. >> they don't behave like they are. that's what's great about. it they were still working. i thought, you know, i wanted to memorialize it. >> you reunite again with james gandolfini. you have history together, you worked well together on the "sopranos." why did you decide how would be best for this emotionally closed father? >> i hadn't thought about him in the beginning. i wrote an entire script and was having trouble with. it i was about to quit. >> really? >> and go do something else. idea to pick -- the scenes were written with the father. i got this idea to picture him as the father. once i did that and i read the scenes with him in mind, not only did that part click in for
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me, the whole tone of the movie clicked in for me. i began to see the whole movie, how -- i began to see that it wasn't a silly teen comedy or party movie orring in like th r party movie. >> it's not a silly movie. it's been described as autobiographical for you. yes and no. what do you mean by that? >> it's auto biographical in terms of my feelings at the time, what i felt at that time about music, love, my girlfriend, the war, but death, about -- you know. the events don't really parallel my life at all. >> uh-huh. >> but it is about the power of music, right? >> it's about the power of music. you know, the power of music but also the power of art in general i think. >> speaking of power of art, there is conversations taking place at this time about entertainment and violence and the climate that we have in this country. as a creator of entertainment, what do you say to those arguments? >> you know, i went to college,
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i have a liberal arts background. all questions could be entertained i guess. that's what you learn. i guess that could be entertained -- i don't know how you answer that. but -- i'm not trying to be glib. people ask, well, do these depictions of violence, do these movies and tv shows make the world a worse place somehow? and i -- and the other day i thought to myself, well, does mary poppins make the world a better place? where's the data on that? and if you could show me data on that, we could talk about the other. you expect that most -- the majority of human beings can tell the difference between reality and -- and wherever they are. and i think we have to make things for the majority, not -- not run away from it because of some deranged individuals. >> so you don't think there's a culture at all of exalting violence whether in movies or video games?
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>> that's what i mean. that question is up for grabs. i mean, a lot of people in my position would say i don't want to hear about it. >> no. >> but i do at least think about that. and you wonder, how is it ever going to be answered? >> david, may i say that i have finally forgiven you for the ending of the "sopranos." >> thank you. >> i watched it and -- and stevie van zandt was here one day. and i was saying, talking about. he goes, "well, how did you want it to end?" all i could say was hmm, hmm, hmm. are you satisfied with it because i hear it stuck with you, too. >> do i like the ending, was satisfied -- >> no, i hear it stuck with you, how to end it, how to end the show. >> it was a conversation as to what to do. but you follow your instincts. that was the instinct that came to me, and i talked it over with the writers. they all agreed. and -- i've made my peace with it. >> you've gone from to have movie. this is your first big movie. >> david, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> glad to have you here. "not fade away" opens in
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